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The Dialogue of the King Pradesi (Paesikahānyam, Rāyapasenaiya Suya)

Vol. 7 · No. 1April 1971pp. 76–83English
Soul Body Distinction

Summary

This philosophical dialogue, an extract from the *Uttarādhyayana Sūtra*, depicts a debate between King Pradeśī (Paesi) and a Jain monk. Pradeśī initially argues that the soul is identical with the body and that there is no life after death. The monk counters with analogies: just as the light inside a lamp is separate from the clay and oil, the soul is distinct from the body. He explains that the soul accumulates karmic particles through actions and that these particles shape future births. The king raises objections, citing materialist philosophers, but the monk patiently refutes them, using examples from everyday life. Gradually, Pradeśī concedes that mental and physical qualities differ and that there must be an enduring self. The conversation recorded on jainqq.org emphasises ethical consequences: once Pradeśī accepts the existence of the soul, he also accepts the necessity of non‑violence and self‑control. He ultimately becomes a lay follower and promises to rule justly. The dialogue showcases the Jain method of using reasoned argument and analogical reasoning to convert sceptics.

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Conclusion

The debate between Pradeśī and the monk highlights Jainism’s rational approach to spirituality. By addressing philosophical doubts through logical analogies, the text encourages readers to examine their beliefs and to adopt ethical conduct once they recognise the reality of the soul.

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  • “The Rayapasenaiya (Rayapasenaijja or Rajaprasniya Sitra) is counted as the second Upariga. Malayagiri Suri, who was a contemporary of Kumarapala, wrote a commentary on it.”
  • “This philosophical dialogue given below is contained in the second part of the Sitra, while the first part is concerned with the description of a grand worship of Mahavira by Pradesi reborn as the god known as Suryabhadeva.”
  • “In this way, Pradesi, is our five-fold knowledge of Nirgrantha expounded : knowledge obtained from five senses and mind, knowledge obtained from the sacred literature, knowledge of objects situated within a certain distance, direct knowledge of the thoughts of others, and the perfect knowledge of all things.”

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Vol. 7 · No. 1
1–5Yogindra Yugapradhan Sri Sahajanandaghana MaharajPratap Kumar J. Toliya4–5Ourself6–9The Ascetic Life of Mahavira (Ohānasāyam, Ayārānga Sutta)6–8Nayanar TempleT. S. Sripal9–18Vijnaptipatra of UdaipurB. L. Nahata10–13Restraint towards Six Kinds of Living Beings (Chajjivaniya, Dasaveyāliya Suya)14–23The History of the Kulagaras and the Early Life of Rishabha (Vijjāharalogavaņņana, Paumacariya)A Chakravarti Nayanar19–26The Philosophy of the JainasElizabeth Sharpe24–28The Conversion of Agnibhuti (Ganadharavāda, Višeşāvaśyakabhāşya (gāthās 1606-44))27–33KriyayadaKastur Chand Lalwani29–33The Descent of Ganga and the Destruction of the Sixty Thousand Sons of Sagara (Ajitanātha Caritra, Trişaşțišalākāpuruşa Caritra)34–41The Burning of Dvaraka and the Death of Krsna (Neminātha Caritra, Trişaştisalākāpuruşa Caritra)34–37Decimal Classification of Jainistic Studies—A Draft OutlineSibadas Chaudhuri38–39Sri Sangh Pilgrimage to Sammet Sikhar40–44A Note on the Main Image Installed in the Badrinath TempleT. M. Bothra42Plate: Satrunjaya Hills43–47The Pilgrimage to Satrunjaya and Other Holy Places (Prabandhacintāmaņi)45–48Study of Jainology and International Sanskrit ConferencePrem Suman Jain48The Story of the Two Hermits that Brought down a Deluge on the City of Kunala (Kathakosa)49BibliographyHermann Jacobi49–53Book ReviewAmulya Chandra Sen50–53The Conversation of Gosala and Ardraka (Ardraka, Suyagadānga)54–61The Story of the Mariner Makandiyas (Navamam Ajjhayaņam, Nāyādhammakahão)62Plates: Indian Ship in Sculpture at Borobudur, Java & Indian Ship in Sculpture at Vimala Vasahi, Mt. Abu63–66Kundakoliya, the Defender of the Faith (Chattham Ajjhayaņam, Uvāsagadasão)67–70How Prince Goyama became a Monk (Padhamo Vaggo, Antagadadasão)71–75The Bitter Fruit of levying Heavy Taxes (Miyāputta, Vivāga Suya)76–83The Dialogue of the King Pradesi (Paesikahānyam, Rāyapasenaiya Suya)Current article84–90The Auspicious Dreams of Ksatriyani Trisala (Jina Caritra, Kalpa Sutra)91–95The Renunciation of King Nami (Namipabajja Uttarajjhayana Suya)

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